What happened to the ‘old’ Certified Systems Engineer?

UPDATE (April 17th) : Just talked to one of my contacts at MS Learning, the are going to fix the issue as soon as they can, the MCSystems Engineer on Windows Server 2003 is the one and only correct one… 🙂 I will update thist post again when an fix ETA is available.

UPDATE (April 18th): The new logo system will NOT be available until it is fixed. The site will be working again witht he new logos as of April 24th.

It look like the CertificationLogoBuilder website has lost it. A couple of days ago Microsoft has announced that they will reintroduce the (old) MCSE and MCSE credentials. But I can’t find any info telling me that the old Certified Systems Engineer/Administrator credentials also would transform into Certified Solutions Associate.

Microsoft Transcript
Yesterday Microsoft has updated the transcripts with the ‘new’ credentials. Since I already earned the MCITP Server (and Enterprise) Admin back in January 2008, I will now also see the MCSA Windows Server 2008 Core on my transcript (see figure 1).

figure 1 : MCSA Windows Server 2008 Core

On my transcript the ‘old’ Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer (and MCSA) credentials still seem valid (see figure 2).

figure 2: Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer

Certification Logo Builder
But when you want to create a new logo with the Certification Logo Builder, the ‘old’ Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer logo’s are gone!


What are the correct credentials?
So Microsoft, can you please tell me if the Certified Systems Engineer credentials still exists for the pre-Windows 8 era?? Or do we have to update our resume’s with the new Microsoft Certified Solutions Expert/Associate names? Can you please give us the answers?

What about the logo’s?
It’s a bit strange…a couple of weeks I was a Certified Systems Engineer on Windows Server 2003, but now I’m a Certified Solutions Expert on Windows Server 2003!


Okey…I can understand the MCSE stuff…but really strange things happen when I try to build a MCSA (both of them) logo’s….check this out! Now I’m a Certified Solutions Associate on Windows Server 2003, but I’m a Certified Systems Administrator on Windows Server 2008 Core???



I think they are still working on some issues there,  when I want to build the MCSA Windows Server 2008 Core I receive an error…


Let’s hope Microsoft will fix the issues and we are able to download the correct ‘old’ Certified Systems Engineer logo’s again….

MCITP Server Admin vs. MCSA Windows Server 2008

When I was reading about the new MCSA Certifications and I ran into the exams you have to pass to achieve the MCSA: Windows Server 2008 Credential, you have to pass the same exams then when you pass the MCITP Server Administrator.

The ‘old’ MCITP Server Administrator Certification Path


The ‘new’ MCSA Windows Server 2008 Certification Path


MCITP Server Admin = MCSA Windows Server 2008
At the blogpost over at Born to Learn (somewhere in the comments) Ed Liberman  has commented that whoever is a MCITP Server Administrator will automatically earn the MCSA Windows Server 2008 credential, and since the exams you have to pass are exactly the same…I think Ed is right!

MCSE Private Cloud
If you want to earn the MCSE Private Cloud and you already are MCITP Enterprise Administrator certified, you only have to attend the 70-246 (Monitoring and Operating a Private Cloud with System Center 2012) and 70-247 (Configuring and Deploying a Private Cloud with System Center 2012) to earn the MCSE Private Cloud credential.

Microsoft Certification Renamed….again?

The last time Microsoft has changed the names of their certifications paths has been quite some time ago, but the MCITP and MCTS weren’t Cloudy enough. This is the reason Microsoft has announced some new certification paths : MCSA, MCSE and MCSM.

I see some of the more ‘senior’ IT Pro’s think….we already have those! That’s right…..back in the old days we could certify as a Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer! Where do the new abbreviations stand for?

At the moment the following ‘new’ certifications are available :




The MCSM certification will be available for the next versions of Exchange, Lync, SharePoint, Active Directory, and SQL Server. The first two MCSM certifications will be for SQL Server 2012 tracks.

Compare the old and the new certifications…


Want to upgrade your MCSE 2000 to MCSE 2003? Just 20 days left!


As you all probably know 22 of the Microsoft Certification exams are scheduled to retire on March 31, 2008. The two MCSE Win2k to Win2k3 Upgrade exams are among them! so you you want to upgrade your MCSE 2000 to MCSE 2003 you really have to act fast, you only have 20 days left.

Click here if you want to see the complete list of exams that are scheduled to retire.

Exams about to retire

Some of the old Microsoft exams are retiring at March 31, 2008. Check out the list below and click on the exam for more information:

Windows Server 2008 Exam Guidance

mcts mcitp

Visiting Trika’s blog (again) I saw that she posted the following very interesting information on the Windows Server 2008 Certification paths.

So many questions, understandably, about what you should do next, with Windows Server 2008 certifications on the horizon. Lots of “I have 2000, and want to get 2008 certified, what do I do?” or “I’m an MCSA wearing a cape, what exam is right for me?”

Here is a little chart–bereft of bells, whistles, or officialliness*–that I’ve been using toward my own dark purposes. I figured I’d post it here for you to gnaw while we are finalizing Windows Server 2008 certification paths and announcements. This won’t be particularly helpful if you don’t have any clue** what is coming for Server 2008, to start with. Please download slides or watch this recording for our preview. and see the little legend at the bottom. In our December 5 Live Meeting, Rob and Jim (who know all the things) will be available to answer any specific questions about 2008, too.

For someone starting from scratch:

We recommend you plan for certifications on the technology you are using today or will be working on in the near future. There is nothing wrong with starting a 2003 certification track today—skills on 2003 will be in demand for a long time to come in different locations around the world.

  • If you want to earn your MCITP: EA in the future, you can start on that now with exams 620 or 624.
  • If you want to earn BOTH WS2003 and 2008 certs, start with 620, which will apply to both

For an MCSA 2000:

It is the same number of exams to go direct to 2008 certifications as it is to do so via MCSA 2003. Although 292 is known for being a very challenging exam, this route lets you take advantage of the upgrade path (only available until March), earns a valuable 2003 cert NOW, and lets you get started on your path right away (rather than waiting for months for the 2008 exams).

For an MCSE 2000:

It is basically the same. To earn your MCTIP: SA, you can take 3 exams and earn MCSA 2003 along the way (292, 648, 646) or go direct to 2008 in the same number of exams (640, 642, 646). To earn your MCITP: EA, you could go the upgrade route (292, 296, 649, 620, 647) for five exams, the direct route (5 exams, but no WS2003 cert), or go via MCSA 2003 (292, then 648, 643, 620, 647). With this final plan, you do not earn your MCSE 2003, but you do hold a 2003 cert (MCSA) and get to the 2008 certs without taking both difficult upgrade exams.

For MCSA and MCSE 2003:

Your paths to 2008 professional-series certs are shorter due to your upgrade or transition exam options. For MCSA 2003, you save one exam in each professional-series WS2008 path. MCSE 2003 save one exam on the MCITP: SA path and two on the MCITP: EA path. The transition exams from 2003 to 2008 test you ONLY ON THE TECHNICAL DELTA (do not cover job-role skills). They are intended to be challenging, but we anticipate for the target candidates, these will test all the necessary skills without making it more difficult to pass than a standard exam.

292 = 2000–>2003 upgrade

296 = 2000–>2003 upgrade

648 = 2003–>2008 upgrade (earns equivalent of 640 and 642)

649 = 2003–>2008 upgrade (earns equivalent of 640, 642, and 643)

640 = MCTS: WS2008 Active Directory

642 = MCTS: WS2008 Network Infrastructure

643 = MCTS: WS2008 Applications Infrastructure

620 = MCTS: Vista Configuration

624 = MCTS: BDD

MCITP: SA = Server Administrator on WS2008

MCITP: NA = Network Administrator on WS2008

*This table was low-rent to start with, and after 15 minutes of experimental Pasting Special activities it is worse, and smaller, and I’m fed up.

**Even if you do have a clue, this might not be particularly helpful. What would be helpful?

I didn’t create the table, Trika did, so don’t come to me if you think it’s low quality.

Update : Worldwide MCP numbers updated

Trika updated the big list again. I’m just sharing the differences since August, 28th with you, for the complete list visit the Number of MCPs Worldwide website.

These numbers are current as of October 2, 2007.

Microsoft credential Certification + Oct 2nd
Microsoft Certified Technology Specialist (MCTS) .NET Framework 2.0: Distributed Applications 390
  .NET Framework 2.0: Web Applications 1370
  .NET Framework 2.0: Windows Applications 694
  SQL Server 2005: Business Intelligence Development 111
  SQL Server 2005 1312
  BizTalk Server 2006: Custom Applications 141
  Business Desktop Deployment Solution Accelerator 2.0 13
  Business Desktop Deployment with the BDD 271
  Microsoft Exchange Server 2007: Configuration 499
  Microsoft Office Live Communications Server 2005 63
  Microsoft Office SharePoint Server 2007: Application Development 178
  Microsoft Office SharePoint Server 2007: Configuration 448
  Microsoft Team Foundation Server: Configuration and Development 21
  Windows Mobile 5.0: Application Development 9
  Windows Mobile 5.0: Configuration 37
  Windows SharePoint Services 3.0: Application Development 74
  Windows SharePoint Services 3.0: Configuration 343
  Windows Vista: Configuration 1903
Microsoft Certified Architect (MCA) Database 10
  Infrastructure 31
  Messaging 61
  Solutions 50
Microsoft Certified Application Developer (MCAD)   1020
Microsoft Certified Solution Developer (MCSD) Microsoft .NET 523
  Visual Studio 6.0 6
Microsoft Certified Professional Developer (MCPD) Enterprise Application Developer 316
  Web Developer 383
  Windows Developer 97
Microsoft Certified Database Administrator (MCDBA) SQL Server 2000 512
Microsoft Certified Desktop Support Technician (MCDST) Windows XP 1508
Microsoft Certified IT Professional (MCITP) Business Intelligence Developer 61
  Consumer Support Technician 63
  Database Administrator 231
  Database Developer 124
  Enterprise Support Technician 598
  Enterprise Messaging Administrator 281
Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer (MCSE) Windows Server 2003 5162
  Windows 2000 318
  Windows NT 4.0 3
soft Certified Systems Engineer (MCSE): Messaging
Windows Server 2003 470
  Windows 2000 99
Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer (MCSE): Security Windows Server 2003 809
  Windows 2000 97
Microsoft Certified Systems Administrator (MCSA) Windows Server 2003 9061
  Windows 2000 276
Microsoft Certified Systems Administrator (MCSA): Messaging Windows Server 2003 4134
  Windows 2000 151
Microsoft Certified Systems Administrator (MCSA): Security Windows Server 2003 1059
  Windows 2000 36
Microsoft Certified Learning Consultant (MCLC)   50
Microsoft Certified Trainer (MCT)   12096
Microsoft Certified Professional (MCP)   22376

Zoek MCPers met MCP QuickSearch

Gisteravond berichtte ik al over de nieuwe features die de MCP Memberwebsite heeft.
Een van de features is nu al  een van mijn favorieten. Je typt eenvoudig een naam van een collega-MCPer en, indien hij een publiek profiel heeft aangemaakt, verschijnen zijn gegevens op het scherm.
Via de button advanced search kun je overigens nog uitgebreider zoeken : op certificering, op land, op regio, etc.

Lanceer MCP Quick Search

Je kunt overigens nog goed merken dat nog niet veel mensen een publiek profiel hebben aangemaakt. Als je bij het veld Certifications zoekt op MCP (de eerste certificering die je krijgt) krijg je (19 okt 13:09 CET) maar 40 resultaten…

Dat de ICT wereld klein is zoals men vaak zegt blijkt ook hier wel weer : Van de 40 personen die in het systeem aanwezig zijn ken ik 5 persoonlijk.

Microsoft voert aantal updates door voor MCPers


Vanavond logde ik in op de MCP Memberwebsite Inloggen met Windows Live ID en mijn oog viel op het volgende bericht :

Reward, respect, recognition: More for MCPs (worldwide)‘.
Microsoft would like to thank you for your continued dedication to our technologies and your participation in the Microsoft Certification community. In return, we have enhanced our benefits program to help you showcase your skills and affiliation with Microsoft, advance your career and your technical knowledge, and make connections in the community.

Join a Live Meeting on October 31, 2007, to learn about the new benefits and plans for the future, and to participate in a Q&A session with the MCP Program Manager. Register for:

Natuurlijk had ik op Trika haar blog al gelezen dat er het een en ander ging veranderen, maar dat gedeelten ervan nu al doorgevoerd zouden zijn is natuurlijk wel prettig.

Overigens heb ik gelijk mijn profiel even aangemaakt via deze link. Ook biedt Microsoft nu de mogelijkheid om collega MCPers op te zoeken via de MCP Quick Search pagina.

Je kunt via je de MCP Memberwebsite ook een overzicht inzien van alle gehaalde MCP examens (wel eerst even inloggen met je Windows Live ID), maar wat ik ook tegenkwam in het lijstje met vernieuwingen waren de Transcript Manager en de Certificate Manager op de Certifications Showcase pagina van Microsoft.

Met de Transcript Manager kun je eigenlijk hetzelfde als via de Transcriptpagina op de MCP Memberwebsite, maar nu kun je je transcript als xps file downloaden en zelf in kleur uitprinten. Overigens is de Transcript Sharing pagina nog steeds beschikbaar om familie, vrienden, bekenden en ook onbekenden toegang te geven tot je online transcript dmv je Transcript ID en je Access Code. Vul eerst wel even een Access Code in op deze pagina zodat je Transcript door anderen te bekjken is via de volgende url : http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/transcripts

Even voor het gemak alle links op een rij :

Download mijn Transcript via onderstaande link